On tinhats

Jan. 8th, 2013 11:44 pm
glorious_spoon: (keys)
[personal profile] glorious_spoon
It says something about SPN fandom, I think, that my first reaction to seeing the announcement on SuperWiki that Jensen and Danneel are having a baby was to check Fandom Wank to see if the tinhat drama had turned up there yet.

Of course it had.

I'm just...I don't even know if amused is the right word anymore. I'm baffled, and frankly creeped out, by the serious investment these people have in a couple of B-list celebrities that they don't know and will probably never meet. The fetishizing of homosexuality (but only when it involves famous pretty men!), the threats of forcible outing in 'revenge' (for...marrying women and reproducing, apparently), the gross misogyny toward all of the women involved, it's just so incredibly depressing and sad.

The fact that these people think they're WARRIORS FOR EQUALITY is just topping on the cupcake. Especially since, as afaik, most of them are straight women. It's like, seriously, I do not need you guys on my side.

Date: 2013-01-09 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gen241.livejournal.com
Oh my god just NO. I shouldn't have clicked!

Date: 2013-01-09 07:07 am (UTC)
kalliel: (gumby girl)
From: [personal profile] kalliel
I don't even want to know. I love Danneel too much to deal with this!

Date: 2013-01-09 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glorious-spoon.livejournal.com
I think she's the only person involved in this that I actually follow on Twitter. She's so delightfully snarky.

Date: 2013-01-09 08:56 am (UTC)
ext_13391: (girl watching the sea)
From: [identity profile] smilla02.livejournal.com
It's one of the grossest aspects of fandom. At time, I find it amusing how these people are completely out of touch with reality and how they use social justice subjects to justify their misogynistic, and utterly gross opinions. But the truth is that it's not amusing. It's sick and irrational in a way that makes me want to never, ever associate with fandom.

In different words: HI BB!

Date: 2013-01-09 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glorious-spoon.livejournal.com
I know, right?

It was funny for a while, but now I just find it offensive. I'm a woman who occasionally sleeps with other women. I do not need two guys I've never met to declare their undying love for one another in order to validate my existence, and the fact that most of the people involved in this wank don't seem to be at all involved in the LGBT community is just...it's so gross and appropriative.

(HI! It is good to see you!)

Date: 2013-01-09 05:23 pm (UTC)
ext_13391: (girl watching the sea)
From: [identity profile] smilla02.livejournal.com
You know I don't think it's about equality or the rights of the LGBT community more than shipping is (though in the case of shipping it's a little bit more complex). I think it's wanting to have their fantasies realized or validated and it's the kind of same attitude that comes from wanting to be right I see in fandom (my ship is true and 'canon') only applied to real people. But seriously, I have never seen a less self-aware group of people. Though, the fact that they're anonymous says a lot.

Date: 2013-01-09 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sjazzmreow.livejournal.com
Ugh, it's incredibly sad just how not surprising at all this news is. Tinhaters are enough to almost make me happy that LJ is so quiet these days; I haven't encountered one here in so long.

Plus, it seems like a pretty miserable way to be a fan. Instead of the vague happy feeling of "Aw, how great for Jensen and Danneel, and how nice that the Js and Misha will all have kids around the same age! <3", they get all that horrible rage and wank and delusion.

Date: 2013-01-09 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zatnikatel.livejournal.com
Oh my… what even was that? From all I've heard about that place I assumed the people who populated it were fans of the Js. But it's all just unmitigated hate. I thought I'd seen the low-point in this fandom already but once again the bar drops.

Date: 2013-01-09 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glorious-spoon.livejournal.com
They're fans of the fantasy version of J2 that they've built up in their delusional little hive-mind, so when the actual human beings involved do things that contradict that fantasy--like get married to people other than one another and have kids--the reaction is this totally out of proportion RAEG.

I've met RPS fans who are really cool and have a good grasp of the distinction between fantasy and reality, but the tinhats give everybody in the RPS fandom (and by extension, SPN fandom) a bad name.

(also--HI THERE! Haven't seen you in a while :D)

Date: 2013-01-09 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zatnikatel.livejournal.com
Hey back! I replied to your comment to my recent fic over at AO3, by the way! ;-)

I trawled through some of the other threads at that place with an ever-increasing sense of disbelief. I got to the point where someone seemed to be posting to say they had been posting fake information there for ages, whereupon someone else complained bitterly about their tactics, accused them of being a troll, and appealed to whoever mods the place to report the poster's IP address to LJ. Irony can be pretty ironic at times.

Date: 2013-01-09 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ann-tara.livejournal.com
That level of wank is more than sick, it's criminally disturbed, to the point that I honestly think authorities should be alerted. It's not just disgusting, it's genuinely frightening.

Date: 2013-01-09 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glorious-spoon.livejournal.com
I agree, but sadly I don't think--at least from what I read, which certainly wasn't everything--that any of it is actually illegal. Unfortunately.

Date: 2013-01-12 02:36 pm (UTC)
geckoholic: (Dean 7.04)
From: [personal profile] geckoholic
We need a new word for what these people are. Because I don't think "disturbed" and "delusional" quite cut it anymore.

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